Only at the end, when rereading, do I understand the meaning of the entirety of the words dictated to me more or less quickly in a theological language that I do not understand. Father Stefano Gobbi was born in Dongo, Italy, north of Milan in 1930 and died in 2011. She booked a ticket to Rome and, against all odds, found herself and her companions in the inner corridors of the Vatican. And how could he have written it down onto over 130 sheets of paper numbered in advance, with the message stopping perfectly at the end of page 130? The Nicene Creed: He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead.. Valerias Copponis story of receiving locutions from heaven started when she was in Lourdes accompanying her military husband on pilgrimage. Fr. Of course, these could conceivably be fraud or even demonic interference, as could the weeping of the statue of the Virgin and images of Jesus in Gisellas and her husband, Giannis, home. Our Lady of Fatima has told us what will bring peace or war, (1913-1985)Wife, Mother, Mystic, and Founder of The Flame of Love Movement, http://www.heartofmaryarabic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/The-Blue-Book.pdf, CRITICAL WWIII ALERT: Pray the Five First Saturday Devotion and for the Popes Consecration, Pedro Do Not be Discouraged by Difficulties, The Warning: Testimonies and Prophecies of the Illumination of Conscience, https://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/MMP.htm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkZ3LUxx-8E. On the Final Judgment. In the introduction of the de facto handbook of the MMP: To the Priests, Our Lady's Beloved Sons, it says of the movement: It is a work of love which the Immaculate Heart of Mary is stirring up in the Church today to help all her children to live, with trust and filial hope, the painful moments of the purification. As soon as that person becomes aware of the truth, the excuse of conscience is no longer valid, since the conscience now has a new standard by which to judge. And you continue, ". LACKAWANNA OLV National Shrine & Basilica is hosting the premiere of the EWTN's documentary "They Might Be Saints: Venerable Nelson Baker" on Feb. 16 - Father Baker's 180th birthday! Sacred Scripture calls this mysterious renewal, which will transform humanity and the world, new heavens and a new earth . Ive laid out some major points of comparison so you can see for yourself. We must realize what this signifies and what it does not. He also received 11 secrets concerning the world, Italy, apparitions in the world, the return of Jesus, the Church and the Third Secret of Fatima. Eventually, all of her children married, and in time, moved back in with her, bringing their children with them. By no means! When she was thirteen, He appeared to her in a vision that she witnessed from the balcony of her home. Is it possible to that I am on the correct path even though I am far less "learned" than the others in my Church? ." Gobbi: The return (Second Coming) of Jesus in glory [will take place] before His final coming for the Last Judgment(2). St. Teresa of Avila, in cataloging the effects of bad spiritual direction, mentions the damage done by those directors who "canonize" one approach and force it upon others without any sensitivity to the individual. All has been revealed to you "Beloved sons, in silence and in prayer, spend with me the final hours of this year which is about to end. But regarding your question of why priests would make liturgical innovations they are not authorized to make, I have no answer to give you. In December of that year, Pope Frances lifted a moratorium ondiocesan organized pilgrimages, essentially elevatingMedjugorjeto shrine status. Colin B. Donovan, STL, Marian Movement of Priests, EWTN Expert Answers, accessed July 4, 2019, https://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/MMP.htm, Why Gisella Cardia? This loyal submission of BOTH THE WILL AND THE INTELLECT must be given, in a special way, to the authentic teaching authority of the Roman Pontiff, even when he does NOT speak ex cathedra" (emphasis added). Gobbis explanation of the thousand-year reign clearly falls into the category of mitigated millenarianism, which cannot be taught safely.. Medjugorjeis one of the most visitedactive apparition sites in the world. As regards the often sobering content of the messages,** there is a striking convergence between them and other serious sources, with notheological errors. Familiarity with the history of Marian apparitions suggests that these miracles should be regarded as confirmations of the authenticity of heavenly communications. In 2010, her mystical communications came to a conclusion, two years before her death from cancer in St. Johns Hospice, Szczecin, on January 5, 2012. This becomes clear when you hear people say things like, "Jesus became a person" as opposed to "man," or "In the name of the Parent, and of the Offspring, and of the Holy Spirit." I DECLARE that I have not found any doctrinal error that attempts against the faith, morality and good habits, for which I grant these publications the IMPRIMATUR. Is this okay? Through your weakness, I will manifest my strength; through your nothingness, I will manifest my power (message of July 16, 1973). Whenever these numbers become available to Countdown to the Kingdom, we will make them available here. By March of 1973, about forty priests had joined the Marian Movement of Priests, and by the end of 1985, Fr. All this is not to frighten, but to urge man to turn his gaze toward God. Now, for the second part of our story: Mother Angelica, devout and well-intentioned as she may be, has some big problems. for a Priest to change the word "men" to "people" in the Nicene Creed at mass? In 1972, eight years into his priesthood, Fr. As a layman, he managed an insurance agency, and then following a call to the priesthood, he went on to receive a doctorate in sacred theology from the Pontifical Lateran University in Rome. But, more important than the question of immediate preparation is the question of remote preparation, which, according to St. Francis De Sales, is the fundamental ground of all good preaching, and which refers to the personal union with Christ that the preacher brings to everything he says. Fr. Our Lady to Fr. Gobbi: It is clear that we will retain our weakened nature even after the Second Coming of Christ in glory (9). He indicated the Church's right to authorize a legitimate development in doctrine and piety that becomes part of a larger process in which the current problems of the Church and the present needs of souls are being met by the Holy Spirit. . . What is the church's opinion/stand on predestination? These are the words that Jesus is begging us to have ever on our mind, heart, and lips. In this Second Pentecost, the Spirit of Christ will penetrate ever soul so forcefully and thoroughly that in five-to fifteen minutes time, every person will see his or her life of sin. Church sanction was of particular importance. You bring the topics to the show on our Unscripted show. According to Fr. 24:20 QUESTIONS FROM THE EWTN MAILBAG 23:58 QUESTIONS FROM THE EWTN MAILBAG Also, Fr. Guests include Fr. Roux counters by pointing out that this personal advice . Through what became The Spiritual Diary, Jesus and Mary taught Elizabeth, and they continue to instruct the faithful in the divine art of suffering for the salvation of souls. At age five, her father died, and at ten, Elizabeth was sent to Willisau, Switzerland to live with a well-to-do family. on Earth as it is in heaven (Mt, 6:10).. It is never wise to ignore such red flags. a thorough investigation must be undertaken by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF). el libro del padre gobbi El libro titulado "A LOS SACERDOTES, HIJOS PREDILECTOS DE LA SANTSIMA VIRGEN" contiene los mensajes que la Virgen Mara nos trasmite por medio del Padre Gobbi a travs de locuciones interiores, recibidas desde 1973 hasta fines de 1997, fecha del ltimo mensaje revelado por Mara , y aparentemente la . The messages from Our Lady of Zaro may not be well known in the English-speaking world, but a case can be made for treating them seriously on a number of grounds. About six years later, the man began audibly hearing the voice of Jesus (what are called locutions). He gathered them into a book, To the Priests: Our Lady's Beloved Sons, and presented it to the Marian Movement. The apparitions have been marked by a large number of unexplained phenomena which resemble those observed in other similar sites: lacrimations of blood from a statue of the Virgin (as in Civitavecchia or Trevignano Romano), the dance of the sun (as in Fatima or Medjugorje), the image of Mary inexplicably printed in petals (as in Lipa in the Philippines in 1948) In the messages, we also find references to numerous Marian apparitions of the past. While Luisas revelations are fully orthodox (the Church has repeatedly affirmed this and even has in many ways approved them already), they nevertheless give what is, frankly, the most amazing message one can possibly imagine. Without the final judgment, Christ will establish His kingdom in the world after having defeated and annihilated His enemies (3). Taken from the best-selling book, The Warning: Testimonies and Prophecies of the Illumination of Conscience. In 1992, Marco Ferrari began meeting with friends to pray the Rosary on Saturday evenings. The Marian messages to Father Gobbi seem to warn that this event (and afterwards a promised Miracle and also a Chastisement or Punishment) were to occur at the end of the twentieth century. Why? Certainly no human being exists who is not either a man or a womanthere's no such thing as a sexless person, and Jesus clearly became a man. While I am not worthy of this, I accept with great fear and responsibility this great gift, handing myself over totally to His Divine Will. Moral theologians refer to this as invincible ignorance, that is, a conscience which is in error about the truth. Here it should be said that, while the former bishops approval must indeed be considered as rescinded, the CDF statement does not technically constitute a formal Notification condemnation, and a number of commentators have raised questions regarding the procedural regularity of the Diocesan Administrators actions. "Do not worry. The network, which is the parent company of the Register, was saddened to learn of his death, said Michael Warsaw . Do we imagine she would have it any other way? Father Gobbi is a true prophet as you will soon see. EWTN began in 1981an transmits 24 oor programmin tae 104 million hames in 110 kintras an 16 regions on cable, satellite, an law-power TV. What can I do to get over the hurt and pain these so called "good Catholics" have caused me and my family? She thought at one time that Sodom and Gomorrah were two people and that the Beatitudes were the name of a rock band. There . Conscience can only excuse in such a case if the conscience is either ignorant of the law of God, or if it has been misinformed by "Father Friendly." The alleged Marian apparitions in Trevignano Romano in Italy to Gisella Cardia are relatively new. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkZ3LUxx-8E. Below is a presentation given by Luz de Mara in Esteril Cathedral in Nicaragua, with an introduction given by Bishop Juan Abelardo Mata who granted her the Imprimatur: Indeed, an international consensus seems to have emerged that the messages of Luz de Maria de Bonilla are worthy of consideration. Twice, she tried to enter religious congregations but was rejected. While such a foreignNihil obstat does not, on its own, constitutein situ diocesan approval of the apparitions, it is certainly not insignificant. . Stefano Gobbi (seen in photo above with St. Pope John Paul II), Our Lady has unequivocally said that the Second Coming of Jesus will happen very soon, in fact in the present generation.The messages, which carry the imprimatur from several cardinals and bishops, are compiled in the book "To the Priests: Our . His Kingdom will come. And in the fine catechismThe Teaching of Christ: A Catholic Catechism for Adults(Bishop Donald W. Wuerl, R. Lawler, OFM Cap., and Thomas Lawler, eds., Our Sunday Visitor [1991]), we read, Some people have mistakenly come to expect a Messianic kingdom in which Christ together with the saints would rule a temporal kingdom on earth for a thousand years (hence the term millenarianism) before the final entrance into heaven. Regular meetings, called "cenacles," follow a lose plan which consists of sharing priestly fellowship and prayer in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament. Elizabeths profound prayer life led her to become a lay Carmelite, and in 1958 at age forty-five, she entered a three-year-period of spiritual darkness. Very few people understand conscience as the Catholic Church defines it. I have to respond to your remarks about conscience because they are so wrong, and reflect what is a very common misunderstanding. He sounds well respected and authentic. Oddly enough, there is no concern over inclusive language in other English speaking countries. Michel Rodrigue and the visionaries in Heede, Germany during the time of the Third Reich). But we know that the Spirit blows where and when He wills, and so with great humility and acknowledging that without Him we can do nothing, we dispose ourselves to listen to the Word, Who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.. However, I do not think that is what you mean. Currently, the movement is seeking further approbation as a Public Association of the Faithful. It will be like a judgment in miniature and each one will see himself in the light of the very Truth of God. uploaded on 5_7_2013 During the cenacles, and on other occasions, this man would see in the air in front of him the numbers of messages from the so-called Blue Book, the collection of the revelations Our Lady gave to Fr. Our Ladys messages from July 1973 to December 1997, through locutions to Fr. Not all of Gods messages are calamities. I don't know what kind of things are being said about money in your parish; but, my personal opinion is that anyone who is putting less than $10 in the weekly collection has no right to complain when their pastor talks about money. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism (676). "You see evil growing instead of weakening?" Jesus says in this prayer. In present-day language this would mean that the physicomoral relationship of Mary with her Son required special participation in his resurrection before the general resurrection of mankind. Fr. After a period during which he was effectively homeless, Eduardo eventually settled in So Jos dos Pinhais in the state of Paran in 1997, where he still resides, and where a sanctuary has been built, as can be seen in the videos of the apparitions. wnycatholic February 10, 2022. They married on May 25, 1930, when she was sixteen and he was thirty. Luisa was born on April 23rd, 1865 (a Sunday which St. John Paul II later declared as the Feast Day of Divine Mercy Sunday, according to the Lords request in the writings of St. Faustina). Deborah, whose husband works at EWTN, highlights that the friars, especially Father Joseph Mary Wolfe, "really encourage everyone to do their best. One day, his friend and co-worker, Aaron, who had recently undergone a conversion in Medjugorje, handed Walter a book of Marys Medjugorje messages. The Rev. . . . It was much later that the American Baptists, who's roots are found in early Calvinism, would modify this belief into the idea that all of us are unrighteous before God, and it is only due to his mercy that we can be saved; leaving open the possibility of salvation to everyone, but still discounting any idea at all of a possibility of transformation in grace. He was born in the Province of Como, Italy and was ordained as a priest in 1964. Thirdly, the messages have frequently been accompanied by visible phenomena, photographic evidence found inIn Cammino con Maria, which cannot be the fruit of subjective imagination, notably the presence of the stigmata on Giselles body and and the appearance of crosses or religious texts inbloodon Gisellas arms. the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall all be changed. The messages she receives are audio recorded by two people and then transcribed by a nun. I hear, I feel, a music, a symphony, in all my interactions. Servant of God Dolindo Ruotolo of Naples, Italy (1882-1970), was a miracle worker and a mouthpiece of the Holy Spirit. Since I do not believe in most of what the Church teaches about Mary, does that spiritually or legally put me out of the Church? One is able to "know the truth" only to the extent that one has reason to believe that such-and-such IS the truth. . The issue of stewardship is a very neglected part of Catholic education, and we often forget that one of the precepts of the Church is to contribute financially to her ongoing mission. Gobbi are not the words of our Blessed Mother, but his private meditations for which he assumes all the theological, spiritual, and pastoral responsibility. Fr. You can see right away the problem: it appears as if Paul is saying that people are good or bad because God causes them to be such, without any effort or purpose on their part involved. Are you willing to accept this? Walter didnt know what this meantonly that he was being asked to be used somehow as Gods instrument. Over the years, these numbers that materialized would confirm on countless occasions the spontaneous conversations in their cenacles, and now today, the events taking place around the world. Gobbi: Message 532 says we will see the new heavens and the new earth in the year 2000. These phenomena, when the sun appears to rotate, flash or be transformed into a Eucharistic Host, clearly cannot be faked by human means, and being recorded (albeit imperfectly) on camera, are also evidently not merely the fruit of collective hallucination. GOBBI CONCERNING THE WARNING. Many people have become confused about the notion of salvation they seem to find in Romans 9, which leads to confusion when taken out of the context of Paul's purpose; such was the case with John Calvin in the 16th century in formulating his doctrine of "predestination," which was the central teaching of his Reformed Church (more recently known as the Presbyterians) until the middle of this century, when they more or less abandoned the belief. Fr. But such millenarianism is alien to the message of faith. With regard to the first consideration, it seems to me that any method of prayer can be compatible with the interior life of a Christian provided that it is truly centered on Christ and not on oneself. In addition, unbelief in this persons locutions or that persons visions doesnt equate to joining Satans attacks on our Lady. Fr. . The messages originally came as internal locutions, followed by visions of Mary, who came to describe Luz de Maras mission. . Contact Us. Journeyman: Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2003 8:13 pm Posts: 716 Location: South Central Texas . Stefano Gobbi. Yet there is additional video evidence of solar phenomena in the presence of multiple witnesses during prayer at the apparition site, similar to the phenomena of the Dancing Sun in Fatima in 1917 or attested by Pope Pius XII in the Vatican Gardens immediately preceding the proclamation of the Dogma of the Assumption in 1950. This article explains why it may be dangerous for faithful Catholics to participate in the Marian Movement of Priests or to believe in the locutions of its founder, Fr. All quotations of Fr. Message 532 says in part: I [Mary] confirm to you that, by the great jubilee of the year two thousand, there will take place the triumph of my Immaculate Heart, of which I foretold you at Fatima, and this will come to pass with the return of Jesus in glory, to establish his Reign in the world. Catechism: After the universal judgment. Every week I absolve the sins of people who are much less sinful than myself. Traditional Calvinist teaching asserts, thereforeand I emphasize again that few believe this today, that the human race is divided into two camps: those who are righteous and who are "predestined" for salvation, and those who are corrupt and are "predestined" for damnation. Though the Divine Mercy message is not new to the teachings of the Catholic Church, the Diary of a humble Polish nun, St. Maria Faustina . On their way home from Sunday Mass, four children were talking about going to pray by a local cross in Dobra Voda when one of them saw the sun spin and change colour. Its contents can be found here: http://www.heartofmaryarabic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/The-Blue-Book.pdf. That's rather broad. Further information: http://mammadellamore.it/inglese.htm I put the word predestination in quotes because the meaning ascribed to it by Calvin means something entirely different when used by Catholics or most of the main-line Christian communities. I am an instrument Jesus uses to make us taste his Word for our times. 9:14-18). The Church tells us there is not one particular means or movement that signifies true devotion but that there are many authentic ways to express our dedication to the Blessed Mother. Gobbis explanation, which is not covered by the imprimatur. The following is from Valeria Copponis own words, as they are stated on her website and translated from the Italian:http://gesu-maria.net/. He then says: "What shall we say then? Our Lady told Edson that she will leave a visible on the Mount of the Cross next to the chapel in Itapiranga. For starters, there was message 287 (one of Fr. Additionally, the juridical actions undertaken by the CDF only restrict 1) official Liturgical promotion of Edsons messages, 2) wider dissemination of his messages by Edson himself or his Association in Itapiranga, and 3) the promotion of the messages within the Prelature of Itacoatiara. It is in this sense that the Catholic Church declares it's belief in predestination, and will use the more accurate word, "predetermination," to describe the old Calvinist idea. For one thing, Mother seems to live in a world of black and white. Dear Father, Could you please tell me a little about "Centering Prayer"for instance, I'm a devout Catholic who is presently a postulant in a Secular Institute, and our director is STRONGLY urging us all to understand, accept and start practicing the activity of Centering Prayer, complete with its 'breathing techniques', etc. Subj: Am I still a Catholic? Our Ladys messages from July 1973 to December 1997, through locutions to Fr, north of Milan 1930. 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