But what appears to be the root of people's unforgiving nature where Hwasa is concerned is that despite past apologies and promises to do better, the idol has continued to make mistakes in the form of cultural appropriation. 1. ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? The world doesnt revolve around America and our issues, not everyone has their eyes on America 24/7. Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. Another misconception I found was about Hwasa and how shes the devil and sooo racist. Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). Joined: May 2022. I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. Thats not fair to them at all and makes absolutely no sense. hitType: 'event', 2. The point is to provide information about things which could be perceived as offensive so that fans can decide for themselves whether or not they feel comfortable continuing to support the idols. As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. Ive heard Moomoos are known as fairly passive, but its also why they are known as some of the most accepting and even better behaved fans. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on their controversies and I'll admit it hurt to read so many people hate on them since I was with them when they debut and immediately fell in love. media-tech companies with hubs around the world. I forgot how toxic Kpop fans can be Like you all know, Mamamoo has a pretty small fan base (internationally) compared to some other idol groups. So I decided to forgive them cause myself personally thinks that they tried to show love to Bruno Mars which is apparently one of their fav artist by doing a vcr of their songs but stupidity and very ignorantly decided to dark their skin to match his and his dancers. For the segment, the three followed outfits . They apologized. Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? This page was loaded Sep 23rd 2021, 9:34 pm GMT. Moomoos are also quite reserved and a bit more mature so whenever Mamamoo is criticized, you have a small group of people rationally trying to defend them. Call me out for what? Personally, I come from a Chinese household with really racist, sexist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs. But- and heres the but- not forgiving them is no excuse for repeated bullying, harassment, and worse. Everyone is welcome, fans and non-fans. I love mamamoo their song i miss you is what got me into them as that song made me really sad but their songs hit different and Moonbyul is such a tomboy and i love her, I love how Moonbyul dominates this poll lmao, Moonbyul isnt even my bias anymore but I cant switch my vote so yep go dominate girl. This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. While Mamamoo being popular with the public is widely known, many are unaware of just how many actors, idols, and senior producers they have won over with their authentic shows and cheery personalities. }); Mamamoo ( Korean : , stylized in all caps) [2] is a South Korean girl group formed by RBW (formerly WA Entertainment) in 2014, composed of four members: Solar, Moon Byul, Whee In and Hwa Sa. Thank you very much for the information!! Nobody is saying you cant like these idols, everybody messes up at some point, but dont call other people sensitive just because you might have a higher tolerance level. Kpop music (as all music) is rightfully and obviously for everyone but i'm kinda surprised how big of a lesbian following kpop groups like mamamoo and dreamcatcher have and to some extent TXT, with other groups it doesnt seem to be that way. A large section of the hate she receives is linked to the idol rarely conforming to what is typically expected of women in K-pop, particularly ones in girl groups. We have, arguably, a smaller fan base in a way - at least internationally - so its a little easier to see those hate thorns in-between the roses. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. For the writer herself, she said she used to stan Mamamoo and doesn't anymore because of the problematic things they've done. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! However, another fan might choose not to forgive him for it, which is totally up to them, and totally understandable. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), ga('ads.send', { For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. They're open-minded and extremely kind people. Trust me when I say that most of the people who whine about mamamoo blackface are non-black people , I've seen a lot of black MooMoos who have forgiven them since the apology , but a lot of non black kpop fans wear it on their neck like it actually affected them in the first place , I may be the only one who thinks this way but American Kpop fans act very arrogantly when it comes to mamamoo a controversy. I'm gonna keep following them and follow my own judgement. ", which culture did u enjoy appropriaing the most #AskHwasapic.twitter.com/x6WYr2VeJa, Can we have a spoiler? },false) We always seem to be so hard to celebrities, especially idols, when they fuck up yet we're never there to congratulate them once we see them grow and change. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. Your question/message will be answered rudely or even deleted if you have not read the FAQ first. Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. i am so so tired. As I am not muslim (and Im not sure if you are or not) I feel as though its not really up for me to say whether or not its offensive ora reach. People can and do change, me from two years ago was a huge mess of anti-social justiceness (somehow) and I used to despise blogs like the very one Im running right now. One user shared, "HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT," along with a screenshot of some of their favorites, another said, "THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH," and one joked, "The gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall. Mamamoo has been dubbed by a lot, especially by antis as one of the most controversial groups in the history of kpop. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). Recently the show aired a special live on the YouTube channel of I Live Alone. I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. Yet she's okay with that. Threads: 200. Ill probably check over the masterpost tomorrow and try to add more info and context and stuff. }); It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). I still like Ryeowook, I wont defend what he did, but Im still his fan. i love exo. lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. She was singing song lyrics from Melon (a Spotify-type South Korean streaming website), lyrics that had the n-word in them. Yes theres a chance it was scripted (something I didnt include originally but will add) but since we arent sure, I included it anyway. Ive also seen Chanyeol and Baekhyun fans criticise them for the stuff theyve said/done, but move on and continue to be their fans, which is also a personal decision. } Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple I've researched it online and all I see are hate comments, especially towards Solar and Wheein. One user asked, "Which culture did u enjoy appropriating the most," while another quipped, "Can we have a spoiler? 4) I included the hijab thing for Heechul because I saw muslim fans point it out and say that it made them uncomfortable. They expect idols to be the wokest people out there because theyre celebrities when in reality theyre just the product of their colorist society. disclaimer: i am NOT trying to cancel any of the idols on this list, just calling them out. All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. Guess we just have to deal with the immature fans who judge them for small things. pg.acq.push(function() { Please feel free to contact me if you think Im missing anything! In 2017, Mamamoo created an ending concert video for moos (their fans), where they did a parody of Bruno Mars Uptown Funk. Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? reporters on a platform technologically tailored to meet the needs of the modern reader. }); Not saying they should be excused for the things that have hurt other peoples feelings, but I dont think causing controversy or hurt would ever really be their intention for anything. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. Idols lives are super scrutinized, and I think many people just forget that idols are real people too. }); Threads: 0. Thanks for the reply! The whole thing was carelessly done and not very thorough. One user tweeted, "HELP I dont like Hwasa but some of yall going a little too far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too. ga('ads.send', { "Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo," read one tweet. Hwasa's most recent callout stemmed from her latest comeback with the track 'Maria', a song that delved into her own struggles with mental health and being on the receiving end of severe hate. But I wanted to post this just to show that colorism in VIXX is a major problem, it has been happening since debut and has continued up til now, is something that has majorly affected Hakyeon (and is not just "a fun inside joke") and is something that every single other member is guilty of. I hear people say that she added it in to a song that didn't have it on purpose but that version is on Melon. Comes with 1 group photocard and 2 random member photocards out of 8. Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! Ive privated the post because it was very poorly made and I acknowledge that, however, some of the criticism Im getting is from 1) people who havent actually read the post and 2) people who are refusing to acknowledge some of the things I did include in it. Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? Thanks for posting this. MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. This brings us now to the true reason for this article. Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And Its Only Getting Worse. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. }) Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. That doesnt make it okay and it doesnt mean it cant be just as harmful, but considering they are nearly always the victims of such colorist comments, it is somewhat different to when they come from somebody else who is unaffected by them. okay so Ive seen quite a few people get mad about the master post I made about super junior (some people have linked me to what others have said, other posts Ive seen floating around) and there is a lot of valid criticism being said, and some other stuff which seems to just be a misunderstanding. Feb 22, 2023. And when a few Moos did call other fandoms out on their abusive tweets, the response that night was majority she deserves it, or most common answer: its just a joke. They removed the video from the ending of their concert shows and Mamamoo also personally apologized at their following concert to anyone who could have been affected by their previous actions. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. cc @sexeyXR @chsjason @Mata10. Joined: Sep 2021 #1. I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). 5) Again, I included the Kangin thing because I have seen a huge amount of fans get upset by it. Mamamoo's "problematic" past (still robot voice, sorry sis) 325,340 views Sep 11, 2018 13K Dislike Share Chaennie Lisoo 38.1K subscribers In this video I take a look at one opinion in. To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. MAMAMOOWA Entertainment2015 Rainbow Bridge World (RBW)MAMAMOOMAMAMOO . document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ After Wendys tragic and heartbreaking fall, immediately there were dozens upon dozens of tweets wishing Hwasa could take her place and become horribly injured. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. Im not sure anyone will read this post, Im not sure if any of the people upset by my actions will read it (because I doubt they are following this blog) but I felt like I owed everybody an apology. Good night @noobmaster89 and solar cult. This thread can't even agree on what Mamamoo did or did not do and yet y'all want to drag them into Blackpink's problematic sh*t to divert the attention, y'all are a damn mess. When asked about it, she replied that it was an homage to Rihanna, who wore something similar in a performance, as RIhanna is one of the people she looks up to the most. i just dont love all the stuff they say/do. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. That crosses every sort of line. if you want to complain about me making this or ask me why i did, please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. offensive/misogynistic comments to his Cyworld account, Kai was in charge of skin color in the group, my noona is a little on the tanned side, no wonder why you guys acted like you were so close with each other, I thought the lights were not entering over there, said that he has Kai saved as Blackie in his phone contacts, in a pre-debut video with a hard -er at the end, how can you say something that doesnt even make sense?, Chanyeol asked Kai if he wanted to lighten his skin, Dont misunderstand us. 9 Months of Service. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. And the answer is simple: Hwasa has been their scapegoat for years now. I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). You don't have to to forgive them for the blackface but I see far too much misinformation being spread and everyone just take as word. Im simply complying a list of things that could be perceived as offensive or problematic so that fans can decide for themselves. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. A lot of my followers have been a huge help and Ive learned a lot myself. Their members consist of Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, and Hwasa, with Solar being the oldest and leader of the group. On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. So trend they did. Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. when something is scripted) or it is something they did along time ago and havent done since.

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