In this case Colt stepped up and made it right. It was a link back to my family. That they came out with improper assembly itself is a joke. Yeah that was a huge fuk up and hopefully massive changes have been made since then. Colt advertises the trigger as falling between 7 and 9 and half pounds. I find that lack of specificity disappointing, especially since Colt also touts that the new trigger has a more consistent weight and feel. I scrimped and saved and by fall of 81 had enough to pay full price plus sales tax. Is it a consistent weight, or is it somewhere between 7 and 9 and a half pounds? I find it on muzzle brakes. Spent two hours on hold with Colt before I got a living person on the line and they promised an RMA that never came. These were a very nice .22 target pistol in their day. At that time you could still handle the gun without a trigger lock. Some were of significant value. I got an old k frame that would lock up after a couple of rounds. Weight . Colt has changed from a manufacturing company to a brand marketing company, sadly the prancing pony isnt what it used to be and made its name on, pass. 9mm Pistol. And if the Python performs as well as it appeared to during my short time with it, that backlog will probably increase. I had to have one, and about a month ago, I scratched that itch. You know, before the turn of the last century. I just hope Colt makes them for a while so all the fan boys can get their fix leaving the rest of us guns we can buy without waiting on a list for months. by. Colt Python Revolver. I even own a few Tubberware pistols. Please keep us informed like this. Customization on a revolver is a package deal. A slight change in grip and trigger guard geometry allows better control firing heavy loads. Please do call them back and let us know what they said. I shot the heck out of one 6 gun, but my friend also allowed me to photograph and measure several other new Pythons that came in. But those were the .357 Magnum loads and they printed, on average, 1.2 groups. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Once I determined that I had removed enough material from the hammer, I polished it and re-blued it. In the above, Justin Baldini, Colt's Director of Marketing,. Not even in fancy colors. I tested both a 6 and a 4.25 trigger. Back in the late 1970s I was toying with the idea of buying a Python, but when I saw the Dan Wesson .357 pistol pac, I emptied my wallet right away. Id trust this gun with my life any day of the week, even if that day was decades away. We are back to the famed bank-vault lockup of old. I carry my four inch gun from time to time. This round produced consistent five-round groups of just under 1. At this time, Brownells is, once again, sold out of the replacement sights, and I cant find them on Colts website or Midway USA either. There is definitely more metal to the top strap. When I showed the American Rifleman review to the bride, all she had to say was are you buying it?, when I said yes she asked Are you buying 2? Damn shame shes my wife, Id love to marry her. Maybe. Its also my wifes favorite gun of the entire collection. But they will be more affordable as time goes. You sound like you think semi-auto pistols are some kind of high tech new invention. i have one it is great!!!! (I did have one Armscor .357 Magnum 158gr FMJ round fail to fire, but it also failed to do so in two other guns.). The Python had a $125 MSRP (the same as the Single Action Army). In double action, the lowest trigger pull of either gun was 8 lbs. Customization * * * * * And a great shooter. The cylinder on the 4.25 gun was blasted and caked with powder burns after shooting it, so much so that the cylinder squeaked when I moved it. Once the gun fires, theres no reason to carefully bring the trigger forward. If I have this reaction, Im sure Mr. Bad guy has it triple. Ive never calibrated one of those before. Should it be there on a top shelf gun? But Im happy with it. Pretty shameful display so far, especially knowing I could buy a used Ruger with the same problem, dial a number, have it sent in, fixed, and back in my mitts in under two weeks. Colt Pythons manufactured between 1955 and 1969 also feature numeral-based serial numbers. Revolvers obsolete? Got an RMA today and the gun is in Fedex custody. I walked out with the gun for $403.60 tax included. Quality control now is heavily in the engineering and proactive assembly staging. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Its simply too bloody expensive for what you get. The 6 model has the traditional three cut-outs in the rib, and the 4.25 has the two sections more traditional to the 4 older models. kinks have been revealed and fixed. Colt says that if you have a problem with your Python, call them and they will send you a pre-paid shipping label. . And, no, I dont consider the Volcanic to be a practical semi-auto because its a weird hybrid thing that doesnt fit into any modern handgun category. But in no way am I saying I dislike Colts, I just couldnt afford both. Only one 4. I asked Colt why stainless, and not blue? Once the hammer is released from the trigger, it rotates forward striking the transfer bar transferring energy to the firing pin to ignite the cartridge in the chamber. Pythons produced from 1955 to 1969 have no letter in the serial number and are the most desirable to collectors. Now Colt, make more of them. I have a 1980 Python that was handed down to me nearly unfired. The new Colt Python, a revolver brought back from the dead. Overall * * * * * After closing, it would again fire the first round, and lock up again. Folks who buy this will buy Guncrafter 1911 pistols and the SIG P210. I put in 200 rounds of reloaded .357 Magnum through that new 6 Python. Dont bite the hand that feeds you. These grips fill a single hand well, finishing just below the pinky of my size-large hand. I have an unabashed love for revolvers, and while I admit it is nice looking gun, i cant justify an MSRP thats double the cost of its competition. If they own up to the problem(s) and fix it/them, then theyve done well. The reply was that stainless steel guns are what people will shoot. Mfg Part Number. I suspect most will fit just fine, but many of the best holsters wont. June 30, 2020 By Keith Wood. Colt designed the new Python to be a strong gun, capable of shooting numerous full-magnum rounds over the course of its life. Advertisement Initially, only a blued finish was offered, but, befitting the gun, it wasn't just any blued finish. Thanks a lot for sharing this excellent info! You just have to work at it. Dont mind the negative Nancys who are complaining. Theres always a couple turds in the swimming pool. The Colt Python has retained its popularity even after remaining out of production for decades. The downside of blueing stainless is that you have to fiddle with it. Capacity: 6 rds. boar with a Glock 17. But theres only one way to find out. On all of the guns I shot, the windage screw moves very easily. I am Happy with both holsters; one IWB, one OWB. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Big black maw waiting to destroy my soul down to the sub atomic level. I never had any trigger hang-ups. Python trigger is smoother by a very very large margin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont%E2%80%93Adams_revolver. It is possible to blue stainless steel because it is possible to corrode stainless steel. Most buyers will go out and shoot their stainless guns, but many folks would relegate a blued Python to safe queen status like too many do with the Single Action Army. Also in keeping with tradition, at twenty-five yards the 2020 Python is unerringly lethal. I take a different view than many people. So far the ones Ive seen are selling for over retail sometimes a lot over. i left vietnam in jan of 72 and at the end of jan i bought my first 6 blue python and still have to today and i can only say the the python is the greatest handgun ive ever had. , Ive been careful with my money all my life and this is what it gets me. I am looking forward to seeing more posts by you as soon as possible! Different Colt catalogs throughout the decades described them as there to reduce weight or to dissipate heat. pwrserge, obsolesent? MSRP: $1,499 (street price about $1700). YouTube has indeed changed our world . In any barrel length, the tastefully done marks and the finish makes the Python stand out. She remembers that 50+ years later, the second one is for her. I told him I wanted a blue 8 in .357 magnum. Its that speed in shooting the full pressure .357 Magnum loads where the Python excels. You have to do all the polishing and cleaning you would on steel, and then your fun starts. Glad to see all is well, and I really enjoyed this review. Me, Id be far more interested in the 8 barreled version like the one introduced in 1980. News, Extras, Handguns, Revolvers. When I look at those Pythons or say something like a Colt Walker I see a freakin canon. Slimmed down Cobra with a 4 barrel, fixed trench style rear, thin G10 grips and a 2/3 underlug, much like the originals. After approximately 150 rounds of CCI/Blazer brass case .38 SPL ammo, the cylinder locked up after the first round of a cylinder-load was fired, wouldnt unlock unless I released the cylinder and swung it open. We all hoped. Yes. For my 6"-barrelled Python, the overall length is 11.5." Barely fired. That was almost three months ago. Of course, I was wishing I had a rifle. Even back in the day I was never that impressed with the Python. With a modern handgun, using modern steels, a .45 Colt can be loaded to be the equivalent of a .44 RemMag and then some. Its the best! When comparing the stainless guns fit and finish, they too, are just as good as anything we saw from Colt in the past. Trigger is smooth as glass. After all, it was decades before Colt released a stainless version of the originals. I am dissatisfied customer, as much as how Colts customer service treated me as anything else. The big change is that Colt ditched the hammer block. Even though quite a few were issued as police department service weapons, the Colt Python has always been a target revolver at its heart. Ive only had it to the range once. While Colt limited some options for the new model, they more than made up for it with the improvements. The shooting hand thumb will find the spur with ease and surety. Some of the time, I have to take a propane torch to parts to get them to come apart (eg, red Loctite). Did you read, or even glance at, the review? I was really wondering about the new generation. I got my carry license in 1976 and bought a used Trooper MKIII blue 6. Dont care to hear about 10mm. But it is more utilitarian. The Python grips never fit my hand right, and Ive never seen a Colt yet that could hold a candle to a S&W as far as triggers go. Holsters need to be leather with some carving, basketweave is a good old school look. What brand dial indicator is that youre using? I can see where the love of the old pythons come from, but these arent the old guns. Grouping straight out of the box is excellent as expected. I was also considering a high polish prior to nickle boron and then B coverage. Across three guns and 1,700 plus rounds, perfect performance. The gun wasnt cooperating. With the possible exception of the Korth guns, the new Python has the finest production trigger on the market right now. My handgun battery is about evenly split between revolvers and semi-autos. MSRP: $1,499 (street price about $1700), Colt Python 4.25 But other than that there dont seem to be any big noticeable changes. Never had an issue. Until this new generation, I struggled with the staging of the Colt trigger, and therefore preferred the Smith & Wesson style. Click here to view our other Live Auctions! I contacted Colt and asked for an explanation of these failures. This was going to be my first revolver. Is it better than spending hours on the phone? Although it has been gaining traction over the last five years or so, the concept of extracting cannabinoids through heat and pressure is not a new trend. Altamont makes some grips for the GP100 that look great, and really class the gun up. Including inflation (and depending +/- on the decade), the price today is comparable to the Python of yesteryear. I think I made too much money to qualify for that .gov cheese. During this review, I shot the guns in the rain and I shot them in weird Texas 85-degree winter muggy heat. Colt brought back the Python in 2020 and it has been consistently selling out since.. Go back far enough and you can find damn near anything to support your argument. Measured over 10 pulls of two different guns, theres all of 1.3 oz of difference. At no point did I clean or provide any maintenance to the guns in any way during the shooting. Colt and CT that tax-loving state full of angry liberals (excuse the redundancy) can KMA. Note the last 4 words of the review. In January of 2020 a new Colt Python rolled out of the factory and it was the No. 38SPL P. First, let me say I was getting a little worried about Colt. I dont recognize those markings. They had instead stopped the forward travel right before the last click of the mechanism. A lot more.and then the Viper. Finally, our impatience was rewarded when, earlier this year, Colt released the 6 and 4.25 Pythons. And then, in 2020, Colt released the best stainless steel revolver theyve ever made. A very nice customer service person told me where my nearest Colt dealer was and said he could have one shipped there for me. They just needed to be put on right in the first place. I would guess that the problems mentioned above are people not owning up to improper reassembly. The consistent and excellent result of all of the guns put a gun-nerd grin on my face. Steel revolvers like this one are just worth the price. The vents do look pretty cool. The gun still dry fires in DA and SA. Its not and never was a safe queen. Which is it? This gun looks fantastic and your review was one of the best Ive read at TTAG in quite awhile. Perhaps because of the dirty Harry movies and others. Lyman oven makes around a 190 grain mold. Um The double-action revolver predates metallic cartridges. How is it that Ive never heard of a S&W or Colt sideplate shooting loose in 100 years of production guns before this? I COULD get one with my theoretical porkulus cheque. Is their a reason why Colt cant put the same surface on the new hammers that the original Pythons had? When push comes to shove though, Ive never been a big fan of the .357 either. Overall Length: 9.75 in. Every photo you see in this review of the shorter barrel Python is after all of the shooting, and after it was cleaned. are the ones to suffer through the surprises THEN buy it after the Not because I dont like it, because everybody else around me does. I didnt lube them again or clean them until I was taking photos. Man, it was atrocious. Its not exactly what the Democrats wanted done with the money, which makes it all the more delightful. Ill pester and pine away for a blued model, but Im overjoyed this new stainless snake gun turned out to be everything I hoped it would. Ive shot revolvers, including Colts, for years. Once the trigger is released, the trigger will rotate back to its at rest position, pulling the transfer bar down from behind the firing pin, leaving a gap between the firing pin and hammer. Now what they need to do is develop a 8-shot 357/38 revolver for competition shooters, like Ruger did with the Super GP100. Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is an infectious disease caused by a newly discovered coronavirus. They were, and are still, fast to draw, fast to fire, and with a competent marksman, sure to strike the intended target. Not saying theyll be inexpensive; the Python is definitely a premium wheelgun. Noooo. That would explain the extreme prices they are going for in the resale market. Barrel Length: 6 in. Thats nice when you are cocking the gun for single action fire, but especially nice if you need to carefully lower the hammer on a loaded chamber without firing the gun. With the crappy rollout, I decided to get a Super Redhawk instead..now if only I could find somewhere to shoot. For any mechanical issue, they should have it returned to you within 30 days. If you dont own revolvers you have a serious hole in your handgun battery. Of all the things that should have been an absolute gimme for them, they couldnt even get the profile right. Very thorough, and I suspect, took some time. Really. I had Ted Blocker leather make an appropriate holster for it. For those that learn the action this is a great revolver, perhaps the greatest Colt ever. 1 selling revolver among FFLs using the services of GunBroker.com in 2020. We have 100s of Collector Grade firearms (not on auction) in our inventory and available for . With .38 SPL target loads, recoil in either model new Python is very minimal and suitable for the most recoil adverse shooters. "The funny thing. Try to keep up with the conversation. For anyone whos ordered a Single Action Army, or simply had a high polish put on by the Colt Custom Shop, theyve seen what Colt is currently capable of. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. In every measurable way, the new Pythons perform just as well or better than the originals. Never enough. Thing is I dont want to face down a 400 lb. Groups are measured center to center with a metal ruler. This revolver was manufactured with a variety of barrel lengths. The cylinder never failed to cycle in single or double action. Double action revolvers and semi-auto pistols were developed at about the same time. Commercial rounds included a 90gr FTX Critical Defense .38 SPL Lite load from Hornady, the Federal Premium .38 SPL +P 130gr Hydrashock, a wide variety of 158gr FMJs in .38SPL and .357 Magnum, the once again impressive Barnes Vor-TX 140gr XPB HP round, and many others. Beyond the straight back pull with very little stacking, and a now confirmed consistent weight and feel, the wide serrated trigger shoe completes its cycle without grit or mush. Hoping they fix the thing. They would continue to make the 6 Python, in some number, all the way to 2006. Nice review. Theres no doubt the new trigger is better in every way. The question that everyone will ask is, Does the new Python live up to the name? Yes. It appears the sights are interchangeable, although obviously they are at different heights. In front of the sight, just above the muzzle, there is a very small screw. Pushing is a far more natural action. And now the firing ping pushes far enough forward to strike primers with the requisite force and distance to detonate primers reliably. Nice colt wheelies thanks for the good article. The Colt Python featured a fully adjustable white-outline Accro rear sight and a 1/8-inch front ramp with red inset. Its frankly shocking that they release a revolver with very commonly seen reliability issues and people are trying to handwave it away because theyre so thirsty for a new Python. 15 18 comments What I saw was a whole lot of people referring to the same malfunctioning guns over and over again. Also have a S&W Model 629 with a polished trigger. I kept my Dan Wesson with no regrets. This is the same system that has worked so well with the King Cobra and is now a well-proven and welcome change. According to Colt, the top of the frame has 30 percent more steel in it by cross-section. the only thing is cant find a new anywhere and double the price is crazy i think the 1499.00 price is right but try to find one its impossible and if they only made 2500 6 pythons thats a frigin joke its gonna be the same thing again you want a python its gonna be 3000 period which is a real bummer were not like the lucky ones who get to find these guns and test them colt needs to ramp up the production on these pythons which wont happen real bummer us average joe will never see one of these pythons jock. Still, I tried a different method, and measured the end-shake at just over .002. Snarky comment aside, thanks for the review. The new Python is a better gun. The Python is the only revolver Ive ever considered paying so much for. Accuracy * * * * * Yes a example that didnt have the problem that many other examples did, just google New Colt Pythons problems,5 to 6 pages should get the point across. Seems to me that the Colt market has always been driven by collector and speculative interest, vs. performance for dollars spent. Hey, Im ordering a couple, but I would not advise you to spend that particular check until it is not only received and deposited, but confirmed to have *cleared*! More than an homage, the checkered walnut scales are so close to the originals that they can be interchanged with many of the older model Pythons. The announcement of the new production Colt Python in 2020 was a surprise for many firearms fans, as the famous snake gun had been out of production since 2005. Mine is a safe queen, and will remain that way while I beat the snot out of the rugers. Unlike the King Cobra, and more like the original model Pythons, there was no discernible movement of the cylinder during full lock up. Those cut-out sections on the top of the rib were originally called vents by Colt. This process is described the same way, and even on the same page (19) in the manual, with the King Cobra and the Python. As much as I bristle at that (I shoot the heck out of finely finished guns all the time), Im afraid theyre right. jwt, thanks for the review. The 178 is classic Elmer Keith. The average worker in the US would shell out nine days wages to pay for a Python in 1956. I was not able to find a four inch gun and grabbed the first six inch gun I saw. Boy, I dont know. You covered the bases. Given the myriad of advantages of semi-autos in a self-defense situation, yes that makes revolvers obsolescent. When I got the gun back from the factory the gouges and tool marks were down to scratches and it fired consistently, not accurately. Fixed trench rear. Remember when Colt shafted the civilian market, thinking it could exist on military contracts indefinitely? 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