Lucky P. stated Early golden won taste test year in and year out at Claypool orchard but the fruit is medium size and smaller than Prok and Yates. Ive been watering adequately, pounded in some fertilizer spikes, and it gets adequate sun. Options: Select size/type. One has nearly infinite room and is zone 6a (maybe even zone 5b) the other is in a downtown core microclimate closer to 7a with very limited space. It regrew new ones and all was well although no flowers. Good luck with the persimmon trees! They seem to go from slightly soft and bitter to very soft over night. Start typing a member's name above and it will auto-complete. Find out more at http://www.tytyga.com/product/Nikita%27s+Gift+Persimmon+Tree Browse more videos Playing next 2:23 Nikita's Gift Persimmon Tree 2:27 Nakita's Gift Persimmon Tree I can tell you that with all the fruit I grow, some years are better than others. Mein Benutzererlebnis mit Cookies anpassen, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Growing Mangoes in northern California - My Mango Tree in Zone 10A. Saijo is considered by some to be the best flavored. Persimmon trees are beautiful backyard additions with delicious fruit. Before spraying with Neem there would be up to 20 Japanese beetles feeding on the NG which is enough to do some serious damage on a tree that size. Ripens in October & reaches roughly 12-15 tall. Parkrose Permaculture 18.8K subscribers Nikita's gift is a beautiful naturally dwarf landscape tree which produces huge crops of delicious fruit in the fall, as well as stunning fall. Maybe that is because I dont fertilize or water it. This astringent variety is considered the largest and best cooking quality persimmon. I see all these pictures on here of trees with practically perfect leaves. Because the ranges overlap, cross-pollination may cause sexual incompatibility, resulting in pollination without fertilization, and therefore seedless fruits of poor quality. Now Im planning to add Chocolate and CoffeeCake at the other end of my 2 acre property, because Id rather they pollinate each other but not Nikitas gift or Saijo. It may catch the NG in size next year at this rate. Your best bet for self fruitful one variety is probably Meader or Szukis. It's a nice persimmon, not a great persimmon - just one that's widely propagated and distributed by a number of nurseries. 1. I think I let Nikitas Gift overproduce last year. The Japanese or Oriental Persimmon is a native Asian plant that has been in cultivation for many centuries. It is hardier than any of the Asian persimmons we offer. NG has a more spreading habit, compared to Saijo and Yates. There are two races of persimmon: the tetraploid (60-chromosome) race is centered in the southern Appalachian region, while the hexaploid (90-chromosome) race generally occupies a range north and west of the tetraploid range. Well, does anyone else battle the Japanese and June beetles on these trees? I plan on planting the Yates in ground as well and am planning on keeping the Saijo in pots since it is the smallest tree out of the 4. Dehydrating them takes the bitter away. Grafting American persimmons can be tricky , as they often lose limbs, and it is done at a much later date. Last year all the small mini fuits dropped off before developing. But to round things up you also need Kaki persimmon (for example, Jiro),fig (Celeste, Hardy Chicago, etc) and currants. How long has she been in the ground and any fruit yet? Havent had problems with japanese beetles on it although I have plum trees a few steps away that the beetles have been hitting so Id agree with whats been said in that regard. I like to know if anyone has had success fruiting asian persimmons in a pot. Fruit Skin: Reddish-orange Its done nothing since. All times are GMT-5. Did yours get freezing weather while ripening? Mine really took off this summer, so hopefully more trees will fruit next year. I like it. Wish List: Bass Favorite, Burgan Unk, CdDM, Maltese Beauty. Both hexaploid and tetraploid American persimmon trees were identified in the populations sampled in the Bullitt County locations, but only tetraploid races were found in Franklin and Barren Counties. There is a mature ornamental cherry about 20 feet away from the NG. $0.00. However, Nikitas Gift is a hybrid of Asian and American species, developed and selected in Ukraine, so I thought, who knows? Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. "There are some who can live without wild things, and some who cannot." Zones 6-9. At maturity, it can reach a height between 10-12 feet. AtPlant Me Greenwe handle, package and ship the products you order with the utmost care. I protected my two smaller persimmons with tulle which worked great. The flavorful texture of the Nikitskaya Bordovaya persimmon is like an egg custard or like a ripe, aromatic soft peach. Nikita's Gift bears crops of sweet, large, red-orange fruit, followed by vivid, orange foliage in the fall. Shop this gift guide. Indem Sie auf Annehmen klicken, stimmen Sie dem zu. Ramv you are getting a great crop! In fact, it's preferable to have only female trees so that the fruit is seedless. Also, just planted a Fuyu persimmon tree (from Wiley's), so I have my hopes there, too.Got a couple of black mulberry (morus nigra) bush plants in the mail recently, as my Illinois Everbearing is doing well (and I very much like its flavor), so I thought I'd give them a shot. Its superb flavor is the choice of connoisseurs. Ive been going out at night to check the trees and hand pick. I also just got an H-118, which is a very early American Persimmon. I am in a similar climate and they all are absolutely carefree and "organic" here. But once you get past the transplant hurdle, the persimmon tree is a fantastic addition to your yard and you can harvest your first crop . I have noticed they definitely like the taller trees/shrubs over shorter ones which may be the only reason the smaller persimmons seem to fare better (plus my protection with tulle). Best with Chocolate for pollination. I'm trying this out, but I wonder if I'm providing a large enough pot. The NG persimmoons are still very hard. Here 'tis again: The original name for Nikita's Gift is Nikitiskaya Bordovaya (NB), or which loosely translated, means burgundy of Nikita Gardens. There's about ten on there now. Large, bright orange, Asian Persimmon features yellow, orange and scarlet fall color and their striking fruits remain on the tree long after leaf fall. I planted it immediately - and have a green thumb. I planted a large NG persimmon early November of last year. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Persimmons Nikita's Gift vs. Saijo and Yates in Pacific NW. the fall color is beautiful even without leaves. When do to you pick them? It was slower getting established. I hate to say it, but I have had zero motivation to get out in the yard and do all the things that need doing. It's easy to tell when this persimmon is dead ripe as it falls off of the tree. Again, no watering there. I have both varieties and just this year we got enough Nikita fruit to notice that they ripen almost the same, the American fruit turns purplish when ready to eat and goes "mushy" the day after the color change from orange to purple. This exciting new Persimmon hybrid Nikita's Gift is a cross between an American Persimmon variety (virginiana) and the Japanese Persimmon variety (kaki) and it gives us a wonderful fruit tree that is hardy to Zone 5. The persimmons at the Arboretum looked like they were in for a good season last I checked so I'm really hoping to get to taste some of these varieties I haven't had before. This is about the 5th year for this tree, 3rd year for bearing fruit. Check out other Fruit Trees HERE! Thanks for the really good feedback on this Phil. Add nuts and they make good trail mix. Maybe in year 4 had I not moved it. Early Golden and its relatives, like Garretson and Killen, will probably sprout some male branches and will probably therefore be self-fruiting somewhere on the way to becoming 50 feet. I could not get to that area to water this year, and the fruits are smaller than last year. Giants with dirt under their nails. We've ordered a lot over the years from different nurseries, and this tree came in large, full, and ready to spring to life. Ive found that they prefer cherry and then plum leaves. However, I have not had many JB for the past 3 -4 years. In the mountains of the Western Caucasus, Caucasian persimmon (Diospyros lotus L.) grows, 2n = 30, which is most likely an introduced species in old Circassian gardens. Hardy to 0 degrees F., Asian Persimmons are easy to grow in the Northwest and other regions of the U.S. with mild winters. Cliff England has had it down to -17 with no injury. The rosseyanka and nikitas gift I planted in the ground but removed them before our cold spell. Its putting on zero growth and some of the branches (twigs really) from last year are dead (never leafed out). $29.99 - $135.00 Diospyrus kaki x virginiana 'Nikita's Gift' As hardy as the American persimmon and as large as the Asian, Nikita's large crops of 2-1/2 inch, flattish, red-orange fruit are certainly gifts. When ripe, the fruit has what can be described as a custard-like texture and the sweet flavor is often said to remind people of honey. These ranges overlap in Kentucky. From the Ukraine, Nikita's Gift persimmon tree is a hybrid of Asian and American persimmons. The buds on NG are smaller and tighter, Im hoping shes just a little slower at starting back up. Beautiful colors. Soldout. Rootstock: American Persimmon (Diospyros virginiana) Water regularly after planting, until tree is established. Ive noticed that persimmons seem to be more susceptible to transplantation shock, especially if theyre coming from bare root. 'Shogatsu' is similar to 'Hanogosho' in tree habit, however, more problems with fruit end splitting and leaf spots occur. https://raintreenursery.com/sale/nikitas-gift-persimmon-d224 It regrew new ones and all was well although no flowers. For milky spores, need to follow the instruction on how to spread them around. They have a lot of american and Asian varieties. Will now fertilize it as it survived our 105 deg F summers in east Sierra desert canyon at 4200' (Joshua Tree belt). When fully ripe and soft, this second-generation hybrid persimmon is sweet and flavorful. https://permies.com/link/b6bfxe/Garden-Master-Course-Kickstarter, american persimmona drought resistant and delicious fruit and source of beautiful carving wood. Both of our varieties crack open when they fall off the tree and quickly become ant food. Andean Tubers (3) . Considering how others in the Ozarks in this thread have had success I may try another one. If not I could stick in with the other stuff going out next week. Im only finding a couple on the tree each night now, but dont know how much they move around. We are not sure if these are Yates or Prok. It is an excellent choice for the deep South and South Texas. I am new to this forum, but it looks very professional to me. 2 Asian persimmons have started a second round of growth. Holds well on the tree - I have to pull or cut the fruit from the branches. And this tiny ad too! Yes I battle them, well actually I just submit to them. We are now offering $15 flat rate shipping for all tree orders! American Persimmon is hardy to minus 25F. The tree is two years old (from bare root) but I moved it to this spot this April so it has a set back. Kiwi's, Cornelian Cherries, Pawpaws and Maypops all do fine with no spraying at all. Those looked like Yates with a pumpkin shaped. I think I have enough persimmon trees now. There are many varieties that will survive Z5 but possibly not ripen there if the season is too short. Your trees are so beautiful. I have two properties on which I could plant persimmon. 4 Another western WA nursery that has N Gift is Raintree nursery. Diospyrus virginiana x kaki (picture to follow) Nikita's Gift is a Russian (Ukranian) hybrid of American and Asian persimmons. The only real solution is to distract myself with seed and plant catalogs and dream about all the new exciting introductions that I will simply have to find a home for once it warms up and dries out. It has had some beetle damage to the leaves, but is in a different part of the yard with either less pressure or it possibly isnt as appealing to the insects. These all grow up to 25 feet tall. $29.99 - $135.00. Nikita certainly has a lot of fans. It was in the ground about 4 years and grew a foot or maybe foot and a half. Persimmons only need pruning if limbs are crossing or in order to control the tree's size. If you like American Persimmons with bigger fruits and a nice taste are Prok and Yates. I recently learned that A. Pasenkov (created the first hybrid variety Rossiyanka) also had hybrids of D. lotus and oriental persimmon. Plants were clearly in a smaller container and recently transplanted to the larger one. This gallery has 2 photos. Yield:50+ lbs. 'Shogatsu' is flattened, non-astringent, of fair quality; bears an abundance of male flowers. Hardy, small tree at 12' in height. However, I need to protect the Asian persimmons like a fig tree every winter. The ornamental cherry trees definitely attract a lot of beetles. It is definitely not true that you need a pollinator for American persimmons to fruit, only to produce seeds. 'Fuyu' and its large hybrid 'Jiro' will grow in zones 6-10. And for a great price! One of them died. Are they supposed to be? We support local food sovereignty- grow your own One Green World! I actually prefer the better American astringent persimmons to the Nikita's on flavor and texture, but I, My Nikita's Gift is setting it's first crop, 24 very hard, pink-orange fruits. Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. We've been sharing our passion for edible plants and organic gardening since 1994. We are a family owned and operated nursery in Portland Oregon. They all have the little TM trade mark symbol, so I would think they have to be true to the name (50/50 cross?) Retail Garden Center: Both are smaller trees just 10-15 feet in height with an abundance of smaller fruit. Mature tree hgt is about 12' very cold hardy; Ripens late Oct through Nov It did not like something about my soil or climate. I think it's appropriate to say that persimmons, like common figs, are parthenocarpic. I've eaten lots of american persimmons. I'm going to try grafting and budding to the. There can be discussions on benefits of each but if you are worried about your grafted tree being 40 foot because on Virginiana it will not and will still be a smaller tree. The author is interested in cold-hardy persimmons. Waste of money, So far so good. I've had fruit in 3-4 years on potted persimmon, but also, I usually remove all flowers in earlier years and focus on building a good structure. It is ready to eat when soft and tender like a tomato. This is true in my friends yard, too. Thank you. It's a American x Asian hybrid. I think wild persimmons taste better picked up after they fall but so does all the wildlife. parfait,I responded to your query added on to a running discussion at the Edible Landscaping forum; don't know if you saw that or not.Here 'tis again: The original name for Nikita's Gift is Nikitiskaya Bordovaya(NB), or which loosely translated, means burgundy of Nikita Gardens.It is a daughter of Rosseyanka(D.virginianaXkaki hybrid, aka Russian Beauty) back-crossed to kaki - so, it is 3/4 D.kaki.I've grafted Nikita's Gift a couple of times, but it hasn't survived here - should be OK here in southern KY, and for you in a z6/7 setting, but I think my scionwood was damaged, which may account for failures here; it sustains significant winter damage at Terre Haute, IN.NB's parent, Rosseyanka, in my orchard, is very late maturing, and mostly seedless(despite native males and at least one kaki that produces some staminate flowers) - but can be peeled, sliced and dried while still firm - and loses its astringency in the process; or, you can leave them on the tree until fully ripe. It does have numerous buds but they arent growing. Leaf samples were collected from 45 cultivars and advanced selections, as well as 45 trees from native populations in Bullitt, Barren, and Franklin Counties. The flavor is candy sweet and possesses nuances of baking spices, raisins and brown sugar. Im pretty excited about these trees and check on them quite a bit. A guy I know out here grew it for years but it literally "broke" and died. We were to take a few and let them sit on the counter for a week or so to ripen . The taste was great but no texture. Yates already finished producing. Its much earlier this year. Evidently some varieties drop fruit (or produce less of it) without fertilization. The Hachiya Persimmon Tree is an upright-spreading, vigorous tree variety that produces rich, sweet delicious fruits in . We are a retail garden center servicing our local community & currently not able to ship our products. Mine are ready in late November usually. Shop Plant Me Green's selection of healthy persimmon fruit trees for sale. The Saijo has more fruits. Search forum by user. I didn't think it had very much flavor compared to the rich flavor and texture of Prairie fruit. I have had great yields from a Meader persimmon for more than 10 years. What a carefree fruit tree. It looked like caterpillar damage of some sort. I and a few colleagues were eating dinner with Brie Arthur in Raleigh in 2013. Flow cytometer analysis showed that only four of the selected cultivars were from the tetraploid race: Ennis Seedless, Weeping, Sugar Bear, and SFES; the remaining cultivars were from the hexaploid race. If you are anything like me then you are probably feeling sick and tired of this cold, wet weather. Persimmons are prized for their dark green, tropical-looking foliage, their yellow, orange, and scarlet fall color, and their striking, large, delicious, bright orange fruits, which, in the case of Asian Persimmon, adorn the tree until well after the leaves have fallen. Thanks Bear! I've had a lot of success fruiting Asian persimmon in pots, but I'm in zone 8b. The fruit of Giombo is large - much like the shape of the Hachiya, yet the Fruit is a smooth texture and very sweet much like the Saijo persimmon. They said Saijo was the only Asian Persimmon that ripens at their nursery in Morton WA. There were a few seeds that were very thin and probably sterile. We graft theNikita'sGiftpersimmon onto native American persimmon root stock. Nikita's Gift Persimmon Trees are cold hardy and grow from Zone 5 all the way down to Zone 10. November 12, 2022. Then came the Japanese beetles that love this tree and a nearby TamKam. I wonder if rootstocks change things too. Onalaska, Washington 98570. The fruit can stand some pretty hard freezes. Maybe they are just stumbling across the NG because of its proximity to that tree. I have a lot of ground to cover I may hit all the turf around the trees that they like and as much other area as I can cover and then hope that they spread on their own from there. Nikita's Gift Persimmon. How warm outside to plant fig cuttings directly in-ground. 432 Burnt Ridge Road. Personalized Gifts. Maybe I just need to chill, but I dont want my negligence to be the reason for losing one. I brought up this very point @ UD last Ag Day with a professor at their greenhouses. Then came a hard freeze to about 24-26F on April 9 that wiped out all of the limbs. It's 3/4 Kaki I believe. I also live in Delaware. Naturally compact trees, Asian Persimmons rarely exceed 12ft. By sharing experiences, we all learn more. . Persimmon scionwood is generally available from mid November through the end of February. Search. 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