However, she had completely forgotten the draw had taken place, Is Arsenal vs Everton on TV? [15] Some migrants who were questioned complained that officers scalded them with boiling water during interrogations, allegations which were denied by the police. A CCTV video of a woman running near the scene is described but not released. Home Office pathologist Dr Nat Cary said Miss Witheridge had died from severe head injuries, consistent with multiple blows from the blade of a hoe wielded as a weapon and it was likely she would have died 'rapidly'. David Miller 2014; [42][43] The police said the suspects' DNA matched a sample of semen taken from Witheridge's body, and to the hoe and cigarette butts found near the body. Ms Daniels also revealed at the time that she had been targeted by death treats and sent disturbing photographs of the murder scene. I was forced to look at these photos for a DUI class when I was 14 because I was caught smoking weed. the above report about the "son" sounds much too much like a "closing in" on the culprits. Five days since the murder police are no closer to catching the killer. They were sentenced to death over the murder of Hannah Witheridge. Unfortunately, the Thai defence lawyers did not call Ms Taupin to give evidence even though she was available. Verdicts in the case are not expected until October. Two Burmese workers, whose names were given only as Saw and Win, are said to have confessed to killing the pair, who were discovered on 15 September. The last pictures - on night backpackers beaten to death: New CCTV revealed as Thai police investigate copycat killing theory. In a police interview Mr Ware told officers that David then told him he was going out to get some cigarettes but another friend revealed he went instead to nightclub AC to meet up with Hannah and her friend Emma Madeline. My Facebook page is called KOH TAO DEATH ISLAND. Wai Phyo and Zaw Lin were sentenced to death in December 2015 for the murder of David Miller and Hannah Witheridge, who were found bludgeoned to death on a beach on the island of Koh Tao in September 2014. She had no alcohol in her system. DeSantis won't say he's running. Miss Witheridge of Hemsby near Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, was raped before she and Mr Miller from Jersey were battered to death with a hoe on a beach on the island of Koh Tao on September 15, 2014. Can they be safe in bikinis unless they are not beautiful?. An inquest into the death of Miss Witheridge which was held in Norwich in February 2016 heard how her family described her as 'a fun, vibrant and beautiful young woman'. The commissioner visited the murder scene yesterday but his officers were criticised after smiling and taking selfies. Burmese migrant workers made up an additional 5,000, around 2,000 of these being illegal immigrants who bribe local police by paying 500 baht each month. The bodies of Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Hemsby, and David Miller, 24, from Jersey, were found on a Koh Tao beach. High 62F. On 15 September, the bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found on Sairee Beach on the island of Koh Tao, between 4 and 5am, a few hours after their deaths. When the bodies of British tourists 23-year-old Hannah Witheridge and 24-year-old David Miller were found brutally murdered on the remote Thai island of Koh Tao, the police immediately concluded that the killer had to be a foreigner, as a Thai person couldn't be capable of such brutality. [61], On July 10, the court ordered the DNA to be retested. [33][34] Over 200 individuals on the island, many of them migrant workers, were tested in mass DNA testing. by General Mackevili Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:12 am, Post Shelley Bot 2017; [11] The two met in Koh Tao while staying at the same hotel. "So for an hour the families of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller looked and listened as crime scene pictures were shown in court.". Police said that DNA semen samples taken from Hannahs body were from two men, both Asian. However, at that time I was already aware of other tourist deaths on the island. Images of a migrant worker spotted later on the same CCTV tape are circulated, with police describing the man as a person of interest. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. [7] Witheridge had completed undergraduate studies in education at the University of East Anglia and had started post-graduate studies in speech and language therapy at the University of Essex. [42] In the trial, the prosecution said the phone was found smashed at the home of a friend of Zaw Lin's. Then, 29-year-old Frenchman Dimitri Povse was also found hanged with officers describing it as a suicide. They did not seal the island, contaminated the crime scene and now have allowed these boats to get away. and 'why do you care?'. We beg that Hannah and David are afforded privacy and dignity through the removal of these pointless and insensitive reminders. VideoRecord numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. "There has been lots of chit-chat on the internet. The family said a funeral on Friday would be a private party to celebrate her life. The court has now been told that vital DNA evidence cannot be retested. Miller had scratches on his back and water in his lungs indicating drowning. Live TV coverage explained, The two go head-to-head for the fourth time already in 2023 when they meet at Anfield on Wednesday night, but the match won't be shown on television in the UK, Police recover Cheltenham Festival trophy that was stolen from Sheffield silversmiths, The Grand Annual Steeplechase Cup, the Cheltenham Festival's oldest trophy, was taken in a burglary in February but is back in safe hands in time to be presented at the showcase meeting in two weeks' time, Jeremy Clarkson responds amid speculation over Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? GRAPHIC crime scene photos showing the corpses of English backpackers Hannah Witheridge and David Miller have surfaced online, traumatising their families. They had no prior criminal records. [1][51] According to an observer, the sittings lasted over ten hours each day. That happened very close to my home (like, I could probably see the location if I went for a walk). Silje Mathisen 2014; After what must have been an incomprehensibly painful month for the families of Hannah and David, the fact that painfully graphic not to mention wholly unnecessary photos of their bodies are being shared online is difficult to understand, particularly given that questions are yet to be answered about what exactly lead to their deaths. The team were only allowed to spend two hours on Koh Tao and did not meet with the suspects or defence. [74], The investigation was met with criticism by international media, human rights groups, and legal experts. US firms waiting in the wings read to pump 'billions Parents' fury as schools STILL won't tell them if they are closed tomorrow as teacher strikes continue. [37] Two weeks after the bodies were found, on 1 October 2014, police interrogated Mau Mau, who said he took the motorcycle and separated from the other two men before the murders occurred, and found them both home asleep by the time he had returned. [4], The victims of the murders were Hannah Witheridge, a 23-year-old from Hemsby, England, and David Miller, a 24-year-old from Jersey, a Crown Dependency. [58] Ostensibly, Wai Phyo changed jobs at the end of September and was travelling by boat to Surat Thani for his new job on the day he was arrested. By ', By He said: The police are capable of little more than extracting fines from foreigners and they are in the palms of the local big families on the island., Another added: This is the latest in a series of bungles in this investigation. 'The pain of this loss is indescribable and our family very much need time and privacy during this unbearable time.'. It was later revealed the couple in the images were not Miss Witheridge and Mr Miller. One of the men Mau Mau resided nearby. We had one day on Koh Tao, it was really hard.". Edit: ah, I didnt realise you said crime scene photos, these were photos taken at the funeral. It will never make any sense. He will join fellow French-trained runner Gold Tweet in the line-up, Sir Alex Ferguson's "brutal" Mikel Arteta advice could see "phenomenal" Arsenal star leave, Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta is already looking to the future and how he can build a side capable of consistent success, despite being in the middle of an intense Premier League title battle, Liverpool takeover: American billionaire who failed to buy Chelsea discusses interest, Liverpool owners FSG are looking for fresh investment at Anfield and American billionaire Stephen Pagliuca, who had an interest in buying Chelsea, weighing up a potential move. Two years after her sister was murdered, Laura wrote a Facebook postwarning people not to travel to Thailand claiming Westerners are hated in the country. The court heard he set up a fake Twitter profile in Hannah's name which Laura described as 'cruel, completely inaccurate and callous.'. 2023 BBC. [70] Wai Phyo was also convicted of theft for allegedly stealing a phone and sunglasses from Miller's body. She allowed Jet magazine to print pictures of his dead body. [31] A British defence lawyer, Felicity Gerry QC, said the trial was "far too rushed and unfair to the defense". Ms Taupin did note however that the document that the prosecution relied upon was an Unendorsed Report in that it had no seal or stamp certifying that it had been produced by an accredited laboratory and in accordance with international standards. [1] Receiving half a million visitors each year,[1] Koh Tao is especially popular with backpackers and known for its marine life and scuba diving. Students Hannah and David had attended a beach party before slipping away together at around 1am on Monday. Therefore, we would like to take this opportunity to ask that Hannah be allowed a well-deserved day of privacy on Friday whilst we join her many friends in a celebration of her life.". He later apologised for the comment after it was met with public backlash. They had been brutally beaten to death just a few feet away from their hotel rooms. Pathologists and legal experts criticised the police for mishandling the evidence, allowing contamination of the crime scene and failing to use experts to collect forensic evidence. Bernd Grotsch 2017; DNA was collected from these three areas and sent to a police forensics lab for analysis. Most topics are about Bangkok and Pattaya because of their larger populations of expatriates and tourists in those cities, but this is for all things Thai. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The hoe was then used to knock Witheridge unconscious, after which the defendants used force to hold her down and took turns raping her, before killing her with the hoe. This could technically be counted as a crime scene as she was DUI but the aftermath of Nikki Catsouras (Porsche girl) crash is engrained on my brain forever. They were then recorded at 12.55am leaving, stopping in a convenience store for a toasted sandwich, before walking back to their bungalow. ", Mrs Miller said: "It's been hard, very hard. The suspects were initially denied access to legal counsel, and alleged that police used torture and threats to secure a confession. Hawara: 'What happened was horrific and barbaric'. [15] Experts have considered the forensic investigation to have been incompetent, and to have possibly framed the suspects. 'The death sentence against the two accused and their conviction should be reversed and quashed,' Andy Hall, an adviser to the men's legal team, said in a statement to media. [30] Thailand's National Human Rights Commission said "the circumstances surrounding the arrest of the two Myanmar workers were dubious, leading to impressions the suspects were not aware of their rights and that justice had not been done". I click the link and it just gives me the wow such empty message. Mrs Witheridge paid tribute to her daughter, saying: 'She was a beautiful and fun loving woman who filled the room with love and happiness just by being there.'. [55], The defence claimed that the investigation was flawed due to mishandling of forensic evidence, lack of legal representation during interrogations, use of threats and intimidation to secure a confession, and intimidation of witnesses. The fact that there are a lot of people out there who still somehow defend them is even more unbelievable. Earlier Thai Prime Minister said it girls wearing bikinis on the holiday island of Koh Tao were not safe unless they were ugly. Their bodies were found on a beach on the island of Koh Tao last September. It's worth noting that his mother didn't just have an open casket at the funeral. 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[71], A lawyer for the men, Nakhon Chomphuchat, said "we will appeal as soon as we can, we have just got a copy of the court's verdict. She made sure everyone on the nation had a chance to see what had happened to her son. Those images are shocking because Till is barely recognizable as a human. I remember seeing the pics 12 years ago and being horrified but I kept going back to look again . [46] The police then forced the suspects to re-enact the murder in front of media,[34] a move condemned by legal experts as prejudicing a fair hearing. The picture of his mother standing over his coffin is just heart wrenching. The families of Miss Witheridge and Mr Miller are now returning to the UK. I dont know if the killers are still on the island. [4][11][14] Their bodies were discovered on Sairee Beach a few hours later, between 4 and 5am, by a mute Burmese beach cleaner. A mistake that many forensic experts say jeopardized the entire investigation.Throughout the investigation and criminal trial, the Thai government and police were heavily criticized by human rights organizations, legal experts, and the media. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. 'Our family is broken and will never be the same again. Police later say Miss Witheridge may not have been raped as first suggested following an autopsy on her body. "Life is too important to take seriously.". [47] Thailand's National Human Rights Commission attempted to investigate the allegations, but police representatives did not appear at four scheduled meetings. [38] Police entered the home the next day; only one of the men, Zaw Lin, was present. Two weeks later, two illegal Burmese migrant workers were blamed for the deaths, primarily on the basis of DNA evidence, and confessed following an hours-long interrogation. I'm asking if they wear bikinis in Thailand, will they be safe? Due to the nature of her passing, our beautiful girl has had little privacy. [1], A defence team from Bangkok, composed of nearly 20 lawyers, were only permitted half an hour to meet the men; a request by the defence to delay the hearing and allow more time to prepare was denied by a judge at the Koh Samui Provincial Court. As we continue with our plans for our beautiful Hannah's 'party', our thoughts are with David Miller's family who are suffering the same indescribable agony. The DNA analysis in the case, which was not subject to independent oversight or verification, was provided to the court as a one-page summary with four supporting pages, some of it handwritten with amendments. The crime's brutality amid Koh Tao's insular, backpacker charm caused an international sensation and threatened to further weaken a tourist industry already reeling from the military coup of . [3] The murders were the first cases of homicide on the island in over eight years. Read about our approach to external linking. I should add that I was not representing the accused men so I am not presenting arguments on their behalf in any lawyer/client relationship. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. We earn a commission for products purchased through some links in this article. But Ms Daniels criticised the 'bungled' police investigation into the murders in a Facebook post in January 2016. On September 20, 1988, Tara Calico left her home in New Mexico to go on a bike ride she took, In November 1981, actress Natalie Wood mysteriously drowned off the coast of Southern California during a boating trip with her, In July 2014, 52 year old Lynn Messer mysteriously disappeared from her familys 260-acre farm in Bloomsdale, Missouri. Attempts to appeal the sentence failed, but a royal decree was issued by King Vajiralongkorn in 2020 commuting the death sentences to life imprisonment. September 15: The semi-naked bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller are discovered between 5am and 6am on Sairee Beach in Koh Tao on September 15. They believe she was murdered while trying to escape from a Buddhist cult. It's crazy that the wikipedia page for the Ripper has this picture on it. He was found hiding on the boat later on 2 October. The Student Room and The Uni Guide are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd. Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. Ben Ellery In Koh Tao, Thailand For Mail On Sunday, King Charles hosts von der Leyen at Windsor Castle, Police: Urgent search for Constance Marten's missing baby, Shocking video shows machete fight in broad daylight, Gabor Mat: No Jewish state without oppressing local population, Putin spy plane before being 'destroyed by pro-Ukraine Belarus group', Amplified jet stream could lead to 'disruptive snow in places', Pupils take to TikTok as they stage protest at Shenfield High School, Putin orders intelligence service to find 'scum' who oppose him, Moment supermarket cashier is attacked at work in New York, Police search allotment sheds for Constance Marten's missing baby, Huge urgent police search for missing baby of Constance Marten, Dashcam captures moment two cars collide on a roundabout. Thai police take DNA swabs and footprints of migrant workers yards from the scene of the murder of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller on the island of Koh Tao in Thailand. by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:23 am, Post In a hastily convened press conference in Bangkok today, Prayut said: 'I'm sorry that it hurt people. [1][15][16] Miller's body was found floating in the water, and Witheridge's on the beach;[17] the bodies lay approximately 20 metres apart and 30 metres away from their hotel (Ocean View Bungalows). [1][47] The national police chief, Somyot Poompanmoung, denied that torture was involved in the confessions. They beat Ms Horton, raped her, and threw her into the sea where she drowned. Video, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, Prince Andrew offered Frogmore Cottage - reports, Bieber cancels remaining Justice world tour dates, Beer and wine sales in Canada fall to all-time low, Trump lashes out at Murdoch over vote fraud case, Rare Jurassic-era bug found at Arkansas Walmart, China and Belarus call for peace in Ukraine, Ed Sheeran says wife developed tumour in pregnancy, Eli Lilly caps monthly insulin costs in US at $35. Absolutely brutal murder but I think they have the wrong people. "Time makes the pain of this horrendous tragedy no easier to bear," they write. The brutal reality of seeing her like that made me physically sick and ive looked at alot of photos on that sub :/, Is there a reason I cant view them? Police and court systems were hacked or taken offline in the following days, and a stash of personal information obtained from the court's servers was posted publicly. Zaw Lin, front, and Wai Phyo (also known as Win Zaw Htun), rear, arrive at the court in Koh Samui, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. , updated They had been brutally beaten to death just a few feet away from their hotel rooms. [50], An 18-day trial began on 8 July 2015 in the Koh Samui Provincial Court. The prosecution says a DNA match between samples found on Miss Witheridge's body and the two defendants is central to its case. Two Ukrainian women look back at one year of war, Why you shouldn't go into TikTok's "monk mode", Pictures of Thai murder victim Hannah Witheridge's body circulate on the Internet, Cosmopolitan, Part of the Hearst UK Fashion & Beauty Network. Later it transpires there is evidence of one man's DNA on the cigarette, and of two men in the victim's body. Very gruesome, theres one photo of his parents looking at him in the coffin and I really cant imagine what they mustve felt knowing theyd lost their son, he was murdered for nothing, and the horrible thing they were looking at was him. As of July last year, the total stood at ten. David Miller & Hannah Witheridge murdered on Thailand Island, Re: David Miller & Hannah Witheridge murdered on Thai Island, http://www.bestgore.com/murder/british- -raped-05/, http://www.bestgore.com/murder/british- -raped-01/, http://www.nationmultimedia.com/nationa 43997.html, http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news es-4402767, http://www.mizzima.com/opinion/intervie to-his-son, Epstein's island: dubbed by locals as Pedophile Island and Orgy Island. (Pics), South Africans turn to Phnom Penh private investigator Declan Miller to get home. The Mirror reports that Hannah's family have pleaded for the photos of the pair, who were brutally murdered on a Thailand beach, to be taken off the internet. 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