Or if anybody has a disability of any kind (including being non-neurotypical, as in my familys case) adult support may be needed if only for scheduling and transport. I really like to have control over when I am around people. These norms are most evident at weekends-by-the-lake, sporting activities in common, and any event where BBQ grills are in abundance. We actually moved to a new unit in our complex to get away from her. This sounds exactly like the developmental stage that our kid is going through shes currently grappling with the fact that other people wont always do things just because she demands it, and having temper tantrums when she gets confronted with that fact. Like say some friends go mountain biking every weekend. One time I asked about the price of something, and she gave me the Miss Manners stare for asking such a nosy question. In your case, maybe it would help if you tried throwing out lines like if you have any advice, feel free when discussing your problems? A lot of people were raised in families where avoidance of awkward situations is the only model they know, so they just dont have the communication tools to do anything else. I wonder how much peoples feelings about this are influenced by their own lifestyles and how much by past experience. You may be as creative as you want, and if you are competent at cooking, they will be impressed if they say yes to your invitation. so definitely think you are spot on with your advice and response here, especially about letting her be the one to reach out next. Does it matter that T did come to my sons birthday party (not at our house) last week? Its like I had been taking math tests all my life under the impression that being good at math meant that I was supposed to just intuit the answer, and that doing anything to figure it out was cheating and then finding out that Im allowed to actually use math! Usually the host says yes and then everyone else gets texted and comes early, and then were hanging out for 9 hours instead of 6 and its kind of awful. . Let your life and worth ethic speak for itself. Recently Ive taken to IMing my friends if Im in their area and have a little time. It's my birthday and I hope you won't be left out. But Ill try and get better about using my words too. I told another one of these people, its a small place, there isnt enough room for everyone to sleep, and they offered to rent an RV and park it in the yard! Thats what I mean. Id never get out of my car and go up to someones door when I havent been specifically invited; that would be really rude to me. By. This will never be the kind of spotless home where I trill oooh, Im sorry its such a mess! as I blow imaginary dust off very expensive knickknacks. Its also one of the many reasons she doesnt spend much time around her grandparents. Yeah, mine, too. Pare it down to the necessities. Ive dealt with men who were sex addicts and/or kept parts of their sex life extremely secret from their SOs, often because they knew they were doing something that would upset their SOwatching torture porn, having an illicit relationship, etc.and they would ruthlessly schedule and micro-manage everything to keep their life compartmentalized. I cant describe the horror that washes over me at the thought of a random drop-in, and there is not one single person on the face of the earth that could do that and not trigger that reaction. the idea that not being invited in no way reflects your relationship with that person? This is a very interesting topic. In college I was in a very tight friend group with my roommate + two other students who lived two doors down from us in the same building. I think showing her that you are aware of and respectful of her need for space will conversely whet her desire to spend more time with you. Thanks again guys! No extras!. I can usually drop by before moving on to my next event. Do something about the many, many piles of random crap and books and papers and and. Asking people not to do something theyre already doing is much more fraught territory than letting someone know its okay to do something theyre not doing. Thats seriously a thing?? But I did start noodling around on Twitter more recently, and all of a sudden I started getting more invites from my friends who use Twitter as much as I do. Sometimes, the people issuing invitations have just screwed up. She may ask you to pass her her bag or move around you to get her bag. And some guys think women really like to be cooked for, so he could have good intentions. organized? The other day I was mentioning to one of my close friends , K, about my sister's new nintendo switch. I mean if its my sister, then she can drop by anytime because if I was going to take a nap I will just say hey, I was about to take a nap, you know where the coffee, internet, tv remote is, see you in 45 minutes. Just because someone says you did something wrong doesnt make you a stupid or wrong person, and it doesnt even make what you did wrong. I will take five minutes to make sure the chairs and table are usable and that there are no bras hanging to dry or sex toys sitting out in common areas. captain awkward i found these tips really helpful, thank you . Sometimes it is hard to tell though. Im, uh, Im actually really glad youre seeing a counselor because there are several red flags in this comment that make me think he might have been emotionally abusing you. ANYONES GUESS! Since I became bedbound Ive had to have my parents here, in my house. You can get them pumped about hosting you by talking about all the fun times ahead, like board games, movie nights and backyard barbecues. I cant tell if this is a serious enough thing that I should consider a caveat for this type of thing too. Not saying its bad if you are closer friends with Chip compared to Dale, but Id say one of the key points of friendship is showing your friends that you like them and want to spend time with them. You ask him/her to see each other and . Not everyone does. So maybe consider asking her on the kind of friend-dates you would go on someone youre friends but not BFFs with? And the worst of it is, just about everyone in the group aside from Clueless Cousin is aware of the problem, and has had their special events bogarted by her. Intimacy and connection with other people means putting yourself out there, taking risks, and sometimes making mistakes. A lot. Im already in the zone, so if someone cruises by and is like HEYYYYY I WAS PASSING THROUGH, well, I was already mentally prepared for interruption. For my part, since most of my friends are similar, I try to make a habit of going, hey, do you want advice here, or are you just venting?. I had acquaintances that did that to me (hence not friends). Even just 20 minutes notice for me to put on something more like real clothes and get the dogs situated and get the house straightened up a bit makes it so much better. I have been trying to explain to her that she cant invite herself to her friends places and she has not been really getting why. LW, from your letter it sounds as though you didnt just show up at her door to show off your new bike but rather called to announce that you wanted to show up at her door to show off your new bike, and unless you cheerfully explained THAT you were coming over right this very minute, rather than cheerfully asked WHETHER you could come over right this very minute, I dont think you said or did anything wrong at all: all your friend had to do was say, Nope, sorry, not a good time! if she werent up for a visit from you (and your awesome bike). Like . Pack lightly. If you're arranging a larger gathering you can naturally also use a mix of these methods. To clarify some points: She inherited the house when my grandmother died and is having work done on it, ergo she has a key and I cant just chain the door and turn her away, as much of the work is being done when I am working elsewhere. Ugh, I think I would be utterly gobsmacked if I mentioned a holiday plan and someone just assumed they could come with. talked about what to do if someone seems open to making plans initially, but you never actually seem to make plans, Questioning Questions | Aceso Under Glass, Follow CaptainAwkward.com on WordPress.com. In the time before cell phones, or when Ive lived in more rural settings or traveled outside the U.S., the norms were and are different. I just recently reconnected with a friends who I lost touch with because of our different expectations. Maybe LWs friend has been waiting for just this opportunity. And if they still didnt come by then, well, at least you tried. Sometimes I want the advice. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Now that were grown? Do no solicitations signs imply that friends cant knock? When they write about the work situation they say that they ask first if its ok. This is the more direct method. Theres a difference between mentioning and discussing, though, eh? She is MUCH better about it now, because for about a year she was being left off of invitation lists completely because everyone got so tired of dealing with her vile, unpleasant, and eventually abusive boyfriend. I have a sister-in-law with family like this. It's a public place. Tell him that you are tipsy and that you dont feel comfortable driving home in this state. People who drop by are unlikely to find me conscious or appropriately dressed. In university I lived in dorms, and living on campus was sort of an implicit youre always free. I try to make it clear in my texts that the visit is (a) optional and (b) short duration. Hoshit, I missed the cleaning remark the first time. It conveys a message that you are not even expecting to be invited, seeing as you are going to hear all about if afterwards. I announced a Rule that anyone who shows up early is working, and the next time those same bachelors showed up early, I handed each one a chore. You could also go to a bar closer to his house and act a little tipsy and call him up saying you are a bit tipsy and dont feel too comfortable driving home in this situation and you can sober up at his house for a little while then go home later. Youve probably been dating him for a couple of weeks and now feel the need to take things to the next level and are wondering whether it is prudent to invite yourself over to his house. Because theyre way closer friends with me than him. But one doesn't overtly correct another either. Im just careful to make sure that no one is going to see it as passive aggressive middle school behavior. 1.4. 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